“Can it be that it was all so simple then?”

Harlem, Summer 2005. Jim Jones  (hypeman for his childhood friend Cam’ron and co-founder of their rap collective,  The Diplomats) released his 2nd album, Harlem: Diary Of  a Summer to above average reviews.  Although he never was much of a lyricist, especially compared to the kids he hung with (His earliest attempts at rapping are laughable. Real talk, Mama Giles > Jimmy) Jones always had a scorer’s aura, even when he was riding the bench. His first album, On My Way to Church, received moderate praise but wasn’t enough to push him into the same light as his fellow DipSet members, Cam and Juelz Santana.  Harlem: Diary Of  a Summer was propelled by it’s lead single, “Baby Girl”, which featured Jones newest find on the hook.Fellow Harlem native Max B, fresh home off an eight year robbery bid and anxious to make his mark in the game, was introduced to Jones by a mutual friend. Max’s drunken delivery and sing songy hooks paired up perfectly with Jones husky vocals and choppy delivery and the chemistry between them seemed borne more out of genuine friendship then business. Jim was Max’s way out of the streets, while Max looked to be Jim’s first class ticket from hype man to headliner.

The partnership continued to flourish and two years later, Jones took his career to the next level with his 3rd album. Hustler’s P.O.M.E. spawned Jones’ biggest hit to date, “We Fly High”, a song which was co-written by, you guessed it, Max B., who also appeared on a big chunk of the LP’s cuts. As big as “We Fly High” got and with as many shows and television spots as Jones and his “crew” were booking, everybody in the Byrd Gang camp shoulda been “Ballin'”, right? Well, old habits die hard and somehow Max got himself  involved in a lil’ bit of trouble and as a result, Jim Jones’ cash cow landed in jail for Murder, amongst other charges. The very opposite of wavy.

Now we all know there’s two sides to every story. Jim says this, Max says that, but somewhere around the time Jim Jones’ Harlem’s American Gangster mixtape was supposed to drop (right after they filmed this), Max officially broke away from Jones & his verses never made the retail version of the tape. Coupled with the murder of Byrd Gang’s other star rookie, Stack Bundles, what once looked like DipSet 2.o was shattered and none of the principle’s careers have been the same since.

These days, Max B. is locked down in Bergen County Prison trying to appeal his forty year prison sentence while Jim Jones trudges along with a solo career that’s just now beginning to recover from the split. Nonetheless, the fact that Jones latest album is filled with appearances from Chink Santana, (a.k.a. the OTHER reason Murder Inc. fell off) & Sen City (a.k.a. Gargamel a.k.a. Bizzaro Biggaveli),  two Max B. stand ins who’s weak attempts to fill the creative void left by the break up are so flagrantly transparent, it’s really a hard move to respect if you’re looking at Jim Jones as an artist.

But who’s looking at Jim Jones as an artist?

Jim Jones’ Capo & Max B.’s Vigilante Season are both in stores now.

#FreeTheWave

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Comments on: "The Throwback: Jim Jones Feat. Max B. – “Baby Girl/G’s Up”" (46)

  1. Shanghai23 said:

    one of you need to do an article like this on Tru-Life, both his Mixtapes were >>>>>

  2. ^^
    Yup. Might have to revisit them tapes by Tru, ain’t listened to them shits since at least 4 years ago.

  3. Great post Amp. Id actually missed out on a lot of the backstory cos i was sleepin on dipset and byrd gang back then, never knew that hed just got home when he got put on, thanks for schoolin. Really should check out those other Jim albums.

    “Chink Santana, (a.k.a. the OTHER reason Murder Inc. fell off) & Sen City (a.k.a. Gargamel a.k.a. Bizzaro Biggaveli)”
    – ha!

    Chink Santana is a definite rapnamefail

  4. android said:

    yo one more r.i.p for nahright. Gbm just bodied eskay. Nah really is a shitbasin without the c-section.

  5. Shanghai23 said:

    Yup. Might have to revisit them tapes by Tru, ain’t listened to them shits since at least 4 years ago.

    ^^
    you should. i always listen to both of them when i dont know what i feel like listening to…i mean that in a good way.

  6. maaaan, this was a great write up AMP. I like the TSS type of reviews and the vids provided from both sides. I’ve never seen/heard Max’s side of the story before, but I knew of the turmoil. Jenny is such a snake for what he tried to do/did to Max. I understand it’s a business, but why do our own people try to own us as slaves, as if the hardship of being a black artist isn’t hard enough. This nigga jenny showed 0 sympathy for what he was doin to Max. Maybe, that chrissy love triangle was true. *kayne shrug* even tho my nig got 75, Max won the music war w/ jenny. #FreeTheWave. OWWWWWWWWWWWWW

  7. Heroine Headliner said:

    God meant me…..

    To push a Bentley…..

    That’s why the front of tha MAYBACH…..

    It says ‘payback’…..fo those that hated on me…..

    Blogger have the gall…..

    To pray an pray…..

    Fo my downfall…..

    Mo money…..Mo problems…..

    Somebody gotta do it…..

    #BAWSElife

  8. slimwhiteguy said:

    could anymore explain to me this internet jazzzz.
    whats the definition of being etherd?
    and whats a lurker?
    ive been following all you guys jihad, ts, etc. on RR and nahright. but i have recently came to GBM and actually decided to maybe get into the convo. much love to all you guys do with this music ish, keep grindin with these posts you all are really killing it and bringing a lot of light into the game and light on other rappers.
    thanks

  9. ok Amp…. The black David Brinkly of bloggin

  10. I can read this type of insightful historical piff all day. More of this less of those album reviews for trash albums.

  11. Abortatron said:

    What up cOLD

  12. what up what up

  13. Ab Im working on a software that would allow me to to mesh comments into one virtual comment section. This two tab shit is not becoming. Whatup though.

  14. Abortatron said:

    @ slimwhiteguy

    Getting “ethered” is when someone overdoses on cocaine/heroin combo m

    A lurker is just slang for illegal immigrant (shout out remex)

  15. Fucking Amp Brokaw and shit, reporting from the front lines, lol.

    Great write-up.

    Random question- I was the only person who hated Ballin? Like, that song made me hate Max B, and it took me a minute to catch the wave (Public Domain 3 actually- the one Whoo Kid hosted), and I blame it on the terribleness of Ballin.

    JihaD

  16. cOLD said: April 7, 2011 at 8:43 am
    Ab Im working on a software that would allow me to to mesh comments into one virtual comment section. This two tab shit is not becoming. Whatup though.
    ^

    Im sayin.. live chat or sumtin. The only reason to force all them F5s is for the $$$

  17. aint nothing better, as a single man, than having a pussy appointment scheduled. I penciled in a 6:30 appointment for today…. Seems to make the day go by so much easier… puss on the horizon

  18. slimwhiteguy said:

    thanks tron, you all keep up the good work.
    fuck 2db and nahright.

    GBM> my broken left ankle

  19. silas aka simon said:

    could anymore explain to me this internet jazzzz.
    whats the definition of being etherd?
    and whats a lurker?

    ^^^

    i can see why you might stay out of the convo when you say shit like “internet jazz” id stay away from that descriptive gem. Regardless welcome to the convo.

    etherd is when somebody says some dumb or homosexual shit (no homophobia) and somebody tells them that they are infact mr cee status or when somebody turns into a internet gangsta and needs to be reminded that they have failed at life.

    lurker is someone who just reads comments and might comment late night or weekend status

  20. Fonts B said:

    good shit

  21. slimwhiteguy said:

    thanks silas, ill do my best to not use that type of diction. i am from oklahoma though so give me a pass this once.

  22. cOLD said: April 7, 2011 at 8:39 am
    I can read this type of insightful historical piff all day. More of this less of those album reviews for trash albums.

    ^
    LOL.

    We’ll try cOLD. We’ll try.

    JihaD

  23. either mad people switched up SNs when they jumped to DubyaMoney or this place brought in a whole new fam of commenters.. it’ll be interesting to see if any of em are worth a shit

  24. Fonts B said:

    because c-section has alot less vets than when the alumnah ish happened, the attachment to the nahright might not be as strong for the commenters i.e. GBM c-section could stick.

    the shit is fun to watch, sociology experiment

  25. Fonts B said:

    yeah Amp got the writing gift

  26. Fonts B said:

    *laughs at self*

    why nowadays we cant just enjoy shit (writing, music, art e.t.c.) we always gotta give analysis and critiques like we all experts

    *ethers self*

  27. Congratulations GBM.

    Much respect to you guys.

    “One’s a Necessity-The Other’s an Accessory”

  28. slimwhiteguy said:

    either mad people switched up SNs when they jumped to DubyaMoney or this place brought in a whole new fam of commenters.. it’ll be interesting to see if any of em are worth a shit

    ^^^

    i think this site is dope and it brought me out of the woodwork to comment.

  29. Fonts B said:

    *F5’s it up*

    *keeps $0.0000004*

  30. silas aka simon said:

    *has grenade thinks about pulling the pin*

  31. Fonts B said: April 7, 2011 at 9:04 am
    because c-section has alot less vets than when the alumnah ish happened, the attachment to the nahright might not be as strong for the commenters i.e. GBM c-section could stick.
    the shit is fun to watch, sociology experiment

    ^

    I never went to Alumnah, and I only have the story from the peripheral– but fuck it, as long as people don’t come in here with the one of the three lurker sins-

    1. Immediately try to “ether” a reg because they think they will get respect.

    2. Continually ask to be involved in the e-mail chain when niggas/kizzas are looking for albums; we don’t KNOW you nigga/kizza, chill til you get comfortable, homie.

    3. Ask stupid questions that are answered either by reading the post, inside the c-section itself, or by a simple google search.

    Then we won’t have any problems.

    JihaD

  32. KzA said: April 7, 2011 at 9:03 am
    either mad people switched up SNs when they jumped to DubyaMoney or this place brought in a whole new fam of commenters.. it’ll be interesting to see if any of em are worth a shit

    ^^
    enlighten me, on the worth a shit part? i guess this shit is deeper than comments.

  33. Abortatron said:

    Worth A shit = contributing to the conversation

  34. I never went to Alumnah, and I only have the story from the peripheral– but fuck it, as long as people don’t come in here with the one of the three lurker sins-

    1. Immediately try to “ether” a reg because they think they will get respect.

    2. Continually ask to be involved in the e-mail chain when niggas/kizzas are looking for albums; we don’t KNOW you nigga/kizza, chill til you get comfortable, homie.

    3. Ask stupid questions that are answered either by reading the post, inside the c-section itself, or by a simple google search.

    Then we won’t have any problems.

    ^yep.

  35. Abortatron said: April 7, 2011 at 9:29 am
    Worth A shit = contributing to the conversation

    ^ I can dig it. until next post…..back to the MVC3 crack.

  36. enlighten me, on the worth a shit part? i guess this shit is deeper than comments.

    ^Worth A shit = contributing to the conversation

    ^ I can dig it.

    ^LMAO. The way this read was hilarious.

  37. youtube.com/watch?v=iYCFYyVeD1I

    *pay attention to :44 – 1:13*

    Good Morning, Graduation track one

  38. “What’s da haps w/da craps?
    Shake em up shake em up shake em up shake em up Shake EM
    Throw em in a circle of homies and watch me break em
    Wit da 7, 7 11, 7, 11, 7 even backdoo’d lil joe”

    What up my niggs/kizz

    Yet another good write up. *dead* @ Bizzarro Biggaveli.

    Members of Byrdgang showcased Maxs talent imo

  39. *daps fellow J.E.T.S.\TGOD member*

  40. Dub…

    Rap Radar got a Spitta leak off Covert Coupes…

  41. King Speez said: April 7, 2011 at 10:03 am
    Dub…
    Rap Radar got a Spitta leak off Covert Coupes…

    ^

    Fam, I already MADE the post. Just waiting on these slow niggas to up it, SMH.

    I must be working too hard for niggas.

    JihaD

  42. I must be working too hard for niggas.

    ^JihaD got a 1600 on the SAT’s in first grade.

  43. King Speez says:
    April 7, 2011 at 10:03 am
    Dub…

    Rap Radar got a Spitta leak off Covert Coupes…

    ^But No, WE HAVE IT. its the new post happening now fellas.

  44. Fam, I already MADE the post. Just waiting on these slow niggas to up it, SMH.
    ^^^
    LOL… Soon as I hit submit I knew one a y’all was gon tell me that… REESPECK!

  45. Bricktop said:

    Really should check out those other Jim albums.
    ^
    No you shouldn’t. IMO Jim’s highest quality material is contained on his first solo mixtape “Ryder Music” and his first official solo commercial album “On My Way to Church”. Although he has managed to put out a few noteworthy songs here and there, those two albums mentioned have the least amount of skipables. That fact that Jones has managed to rap worse with each successive album is still mind boggling to me. Jim, step your ghost writer game up!

    * daps this platinum coated oil money shit*

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